Podcast

The Bitcoin Standard podcast is releasing a recording of the weekly saifedean.com discussion seminar. The seminar is open to learners on saifedean.com, and focuses on discussing the material of the courses, as well as a broader discussion of Bitcoin, Austrian economics, and various current affairs.

Below you can find the most recent Bitcoin Standard Podcast episodes.

Recent Episodes:

86. Layered Money with Nik Bhatia

In this episode Saifedean talks to Nik Bhatia, author of Layered Money. They begin by discussing Nik’s first essays on bitcoin, The Time Value of Bitcoin and The Lightning Network Reference Rate, and why Nik thinks “Lightning banks” are on their way.

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85. Hyperbitcoinization with Knut Svanholm

In this episode Saifedean talks to Knut Svanholm, author of Bitcoin: Sovereignty through mathematics and Bitcoin: Independence reimagined. They discuss what a “hyperbitcoinized” world might look like, to what extent it might reduce the need for human labor, and how quickly its economy might grow.

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82. Q&A seminar

In this episode, Saifedean takes questions from regular seminar attendees on bitcoin price models, fungibility, and central bank digital currencies.

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81. Knowledge Entrepreneurship: an interview with mises.org

In this interview with the Mises Institute’s Economics for Business podcast, Saifedean discusses his entrepreneurial work on saifedean.com: what is the business model, why he decided to leave behind the malinvestment of academia and work independently, how bitcoin was instrumental in this move, the benefits of independent knowledge entrepreneurship, and why this is the beginning of a growing trend worldwide.

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80. Government Funding of Science with Terence Kealey

In this episode Saifedean talks to Dr Terence Kealey, adjunct scholar at The Cato Institute, about government funding of science. They discuss the history of technological development including how the Industrial Revolution was able to take place in Britain at a time of limited government and no significant state support for science.

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79. Would Hard Money Fail in a Recession?

In this episode Saifedean talks to regular seminar attendees about some common criticisms of hard money made by inflationist economists, and why these criticisms represent a misunderstanding of why recessions happen and how they are resolved.

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78. The Power of Online Learning with Jeff Davidson

In this episode Saifedean talks to Jeff Davidson, Executive Director at Saylor Academy, about how online learning is disrupting traditional education. Jeff describes why he became interested in education and how he came to partner with Michael Saylor on developing Saylor Academy into one of the world’s leading online learning platforms.

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Saifedean and Michael Saylor on Austrian Economics and Saylor.org

Saifedean is delighted to be offering a free introductory course on Austrian economics through Saylor.org, Michael Saylor’s free online university. In this Twitter Spaces discussion, Michael and Saifedean discuss the course content, how the Austrian School’s approach to economics differs from the mainstream, and why it is best to study economics in the Austrian tradition.

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73. Bitcoin and Time with Gigi

In this episode Saifedean talks to software developer and author Gigi. They start by talking about Gigi’s book 21 Lessons: What I’ve Learned from Falling Down the Bitcoin Rabbit Hole, and why Gigi’s most important lesson is “you will not change bitcoin, but bitcoin will change you”.

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Guest Episode: Power Hour w/ Alex Epstein

Saifedean’s interview on Power Hour, hosted by Alex Epstein, author of The Moral Case for Fossil Fuels, about how systematic government control–“fiat”–wreaks havoc in the realms, not just of currency, but of science, education, and energy.

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70. The Future of Bitcoin Mining with Ben Gagnon

In this episode Saifedean talks to Ben Gagnon, Chief Mining Officer at Bifarms, a Canadian bitcoin mining company that accounts for 1-2% of global hash power. Ben tells the story of how he became involved in bitcoin after missing an opportunity to buy 100 bitcoin for $70 in 2010.

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68. China’s Bitcoin Bans with Neil Woodfine

Saifedean’s seminar is joined by Neil Woodfine, Head of Marketing at Unchained Capital, who lived and worked in the bitcoin industry in China since 2014. Neil talks about his experience navigating the unpredictable Chinese regulatory environment, how he views China’s recent ban on bitcoin mining in light of previous Chinese bitcoin policy, the implications for the bitcoin network, how Chinese miners adapt to these bans, and the state of bitcoin trading and payments in China in general.

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66. The Bullish Case for Bitcoin with Vijay Boyapati

In this episode Saifedean is joined by Vijay Boyapati, author of one of the most widely known articles for bitcoin beginners: The Bullish Case for Bitcoin. In this wide-ranging discussion Saifedean and Vijay analyse bitcoin’s rise through their shared framework of the Austrian School of Economics.

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65. Fiat Farming with Joel from Untapped Growth

In this week’s podcast Saifedean is joined by Joel, a bitcoiner from Virginia-based regenerative farming business Untapped Growth. Joel explains the damage done to soil by modern agriculture, and how it has its roots in rising time preference and increased short-termism fostered by inflationary monetary policy and government interventions in the food and land markets.

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64. Fiat economic models

This seminar discusses the problems of economic modeling, using examples from environmental, energy, and macro economics. Saifedean explains how his graduate school experience trying to model energy markets led him to appreciate Mises’ calculation problem and the problems of complex quantitative predictive models.

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61. Why bitcoin can’t be controlled by councils

In today’s seminar Saifedean talks to regular seminar attendees about the Bitcoin Mining Council: a recently formed group of North American bitcoin miners that aims to “promote energy usage transparency [and] accelerate sustainability initiatives worldwide.”

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58. Taxation, Bitcoin and the State with Dominic Frisby

In this episode Saifedean talks to libertarian author and comedian Dominic Frisby about the history of taxation, the rise of Bitcoin and whether we are moving towards a more or less statist world. They cover the story of how Dominic first found out about Bitcoin in December 2010, how voluntary taxation worked in ancient Greece, the rise of digital nomads, and whether land value tax represents the “least bad tax”.

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57. Elon Musk: The Fiat Rockefeller

In this episode Saifedean talks to regular seminar attendees about Elon Musk’s recent bitcoin comments, and what they teach us about him & his business empire. Saifedean compares Elon Musk to John D. Rockefeller – both the richest men in the world in their eras – and discusses the extent to which their innovations have had an impact on the lives of everyday people, to give us an idea of how fiat alters society. To become the richest man in the world, Rockefeller built the modern industrial world, transforming the lives of billions, while Musk traded carbon credits & received subsidies to unprofitably build a few toy cars for the rich.

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56. Free Private Cities and Bitcoin with Rahim Taghizadegan

In this episode Saifedean talks to Rahim Taghizadegan, the president of the Free Private Cities Foundation, and one of the few Austrian School economists still operating in Austria. They discuss the history of the Austrian School, the problems of modern fiat academia and why Rahim sees Bitcoin as an essential part of the monetary infrastructure that would support Free Private Cities.

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55. Is easy money good for exports?

In today’s seminar Saifedean talks to regular attendees about whether increasing a nation’s exports should be seen as a desirable policy goal, and why countries that devalue their currencies don’t necessarily export more. The discussion focusses on the post-war experience of Germany and Switzerland and how these countries grew prosperous through maintenance of a strong currency.

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54. Bitcoin and the Global Economy with Lyn Alden

In this podcast Saifedean and Lyn discuss Bitcoin and trends taking place in the macroeconomy. Lyn starts by giving her view on the investment case for Bitcoin, PlanB’s Stock to Flow model, and whether Bitcoin can be characterized as a Ponzi scheme. They then move on to discuss global macroeconomic conditions and why Bitcoin represents a more attractive investment in a world where fiat currency supply expansion is accelerating. They touch on long-term debt cycles, 1970s stagflation, CBDCs and whether we should expect high inflation during the 2020s.

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53. Allen Farrington’s adventures with Fiat Intellectuals

Described by Jordan Peterson as “frighteningly smart”, Allen Farrington is a member of saifedean.com who has written some excellent essays on bitcoin, and also spent an enormous amount of time studying the work of various fiat intellectuals, so you don’t have to. He joins us for a deep dive into why fiat intellectuals have such a hard time understanding bitcoin, why it triggers them so much, and whether there is anything important or profound in the ramblings of angry fiaters like George Selgin, Eric Weinstein, and Nassim Taleb.

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51. The Global Bond Market and Bitcoin with Greg Foss

Experienced high-yield credit trader Greg Foss joins Saifedean Ammous for a discussion on why bond investors should own Bitcoin. They talk about why Bitcoin represents insurance against sovereign debt defaults, how Greg’s values Bitcoin using data from the Credit Default Swap markets, and why those same markets suggest that Canada’s official credit rating is too high.

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50. Precautionary principle & mass hysteria

We compare the precautionary principle approach of obsessing over avoiding one negative outcome to the economic way of thinking, which entails examining the seen and unseen consequences of each action, and is a much more sane, safe, and intelligent way of approaching complex issues. We examine two contemporary episodes of global mass hysteria to see how dangerously reckless and counterproductive using the precautionary principle is.

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49. Can electric cars save the planet?

We discuss the economics of electric cars, and what the heavy subsidies they receive tell us about their future potential. Will they save earth from CO2 emissions? Is eliminating emissions possible? Is it even desirable?

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48. The oportunity cost of fiat

In this seminar, we apply the economic way of thinking to figure out the opportunity cost of a century of fiat money. How would the world look like if it had hard money over the past century? What would be the impacts on capital accumulation, international trade, poverty alleviation?

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47. Fiat food

In this episode we discuss the link between fiat money and fiat food, based on the latest chapter from The Fiat Standard, available to subscribers on saifedean.com. We discuss: fiat’s encouragement of high time preference thinking causing soil depletion and bad food choices; why fiat governments heavily subsidize fiat foods to make inflation look better; and how a hard monetary standard incentivizes eating real food and regenerating soil.

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46. Debate: are precious metals being demonetized?

Peter Young hosts a debate between Saifedean and gold investor Mark Valek on the monetary status of precious metals. Has bitcoin obsoleted gold as money? Is gold being demonetized? Do gold’s uses in jewellery and industry help or hinder its monetary status?

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45. Bitcoin’s energy consumption

We discuss the economics of energy, based on the chapter on the topic in my Principles of Economics textbook, which is available to subscribers on saifedean.com. What is the economic rationale for consuming energy? How has energy use increased the value of human time, helped end slavery, and improved living standards? What does this teach us about bitcoin’s energy consumption? What are the real costs of low-energy alternatives to bitcoin?

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44. The economics of banning bitcoin

We look at the economic problems of cracking down on bitcoin, and how that’s working out for governments trying it. What can we learn from prohibition of drugs & alcohol? Will India’s recent ban on bitcoin be as big a historic mistake as staying on the silver standard in the nineteenth century?

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43. Bitcoin and market efficiency

Are markets efficient? How do we think of this question from an Austrian perspective? We discuss how the absence of constants in economics has always been the problem with all quantitative approaches to economic questions, and what bitcoin means for this.

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Debating Professor Hanke on Bitcoin’s value

Professor Steve Hanke has many decades of experience studying currencies and fighting inflation, but does not see value in bitcoin. He joins Saifedean and Hong Fang, the CEO of OKCoin, to discuss Bitcoin’s value, whether bitcoin has intrinsic value, if bitcoin is just a speculative bubble, and if a currency board would work for a digital currency.

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42. The Fiat Standard, Chapters 4-7

In this seminar we discuss chapters 4 to 7 from my book The Fiat Standard, the forthcoming sequel to The Bitcoin Standard, available to subscribers on saifedean.com. How does the fiat standard work internationally? We look at how mining fiat by lending it incentivizes international financial institutions, how it shapes international politics and the domestic politics of developing countries, and how it has prevented economic growth in poor countries.

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41. Can bitcoin obsolete bonds?

As insurance industry giants begin to enter the bitcoin space, we discuss the implications for bitcoin’s proposition as a store of value. Will the satoshi rate become the new risk-free rate? Are there any good reasons for bonds to exist in a world in which bitcoin works? What is the case for holding gold in a bitcoin world?

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40. Dr. Shawn Baker on Meat, Fiat Foods, and Bitcoin

This week we host the poster child for carbohydrate deficiency, carnivore elite athlete, orthopedic surgeon, author, and bitcoiner Dr. Shawn Baker! We discuss Shawn’s personal experience as an athlete, and his professional experience as a surgeon, on the carnivore diet, the rationale for eating meat-only, the health benefits, and why dietary interventions are far more effective than public health interventions. We also ask Shawn’s views on sourcing meat, the environmental impact of meat production, fasting, coffee, and wine.

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39. The Shitcoin Standard

This week we discuss: What are shitcoins good for? Can shitcoins help bitcoin scale? Do shitcoins take market share from bitcoin, or from each other? Plus, find out why backing gold with bitcoin is far more likely than backing bitcoin with gold!

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38. Bitcoin and fiat debt

Should you borrow fiat to buy bitcoin? Is it better to sell bitcoin or borrow against it? In this seminar we discuss optimal fiat strategies for bitcoiners, and the risks involved, based on Michael Saylor’s comments in seminar 34, and the early chapters of The Fiat Standard.

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37. Art on The Bitcoin Standard

In this seminar we are joined by Stephen Chow, founder of Chow Art Fund, whose mission is to embrace the bitcoin standard in order to sponsor living artists to create masterpieces, and @FractalEncrypt, an artist who has produced a magnificent bitcoin full node sculpture.

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36. Michael Saylor, stock-to-flow, and praxeology

We discuss last week seminar with Microstrategy CEO Michael Saylor. We go over his strategy for buying bitcoin and wether it works for everyone. Do his actions and analysis contradict the bitcoin stock to flow model? Finally, we discuss how we can reconcile the stock to flow model with praxeology and the Austrian economics we cover in our courses.

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35. An Austrian in Pyongyang!

In this podcast we talk to Peter Young, a regular attendee of our seminars and student of Austrian economics, who has spent a lot of time traveling to North Korea. Peter gives us his perspective on the communist economic system and how it functions, through the lens of the Austrian economics.

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34. Michael Saylor on The Fiat Standard

We are rejoined by Microstrategy CEO Michael Saylor, who has read the first part of The Fiat Standard and shares some fascinating feedback on it, including how to think of time preference and bitcoin. We also discuss Bitcoin for Corporations, the conference Microstrategy organized, and how he sees the bitcoin corporate wave advancing. What are the assets obsoleted by bitcoin? What are Michael’s mental models for thinking about bitcoin’s price, his thoughts on price prediction models, and whether he thinks we’ll see another big crash in bitcoin.

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33. Stock-to-flow: a deeper look

In this seminar, we look closely at the concept of stock-to-flow, comparing it across bitcoin, gold, silver, other metals, and altcoins. We go over the data from The Bitcoin Standard, and look at more recent numbers for silver, and explain why attempts to monetize silver and platinum failed, why mining asteroids would not eliminate gold’s monetary role, and what actually could do it.

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32. Anarchy in Health

How would the free market have handled a respiratory illness? After a year of evidence, including my personal experience with the illness, we discuss the effectiveness of individual and public health precautions and interventions.

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31. In Defense of Deflation with Philipp Bagus

This week we host Philipp Bagus, the economist who wrote the definitive Austrian treatment of deflation, In Defense of Deflation. We discuss the history of anti-deflation thought in economics, the different kinds of deflation, the consequences of deflation, and whether this is a problem for bitcoin. We also discuss Philipp’s views on bitcoin, as well as his work on the Euro.

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30. Gamestop, deflation, and Q&A

In this week’s seminar we discuss reddit’s attack on hedge funds by buying Gamestop stock. How the analysis of hard money in The Bitcoin Standard can help us understand why these short-squeezes will be self-defeating everywhere except with bitcoin, because of its unique Number Go Up technology. We also discuss deflation, monarchy, and more fun!

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29. Entrepreneurship in the Austrian tradition, with Per Bylund

We are joined by Austrian-school economist Per Bylund to discuss entrepreneurship as studied in the Austrian school tradition, and how and why the treatment of this topic differs from mainstream schools of thought. Per is a Fellow of the Mises Institute and Assistant Professor of Entrepreneurship & Records-Johnston Professor of Free Enterprise in the School of Entrepreneurship in the Spears School of Business at Oklahoma State University.

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27. The Underlying Technology Behind Fiat Standard

In this podcast episode, Saifedean discusses chapters 3 and 4 of The Fiat Standard with subscribers. These foundational chapters explain how the fiat system functions with analogy to Bitcoin, studying central banks as nodes and examining their core functions, explaining how lending in fiat is the equivalent of mining in bitcoin, how it translates to supply issuance, and how to understand price inflation in fiat.

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26. Is this bull market different? With Preston Pysh

In this seminar we are joined by Preston Pysh, an investor and podcaster who has produced excellent thought-provoking research on bitcoin. We discuss Preston’s journey from value investor to bitcoiner, and how he bridges his Warren Buffet background with being a bitcoiner. We also discuss his fascinating mental model for thinking about bitcoin bull runs, and whether this bull run will be similar to previous ones in being followed by a big crash, or if this time will be different.

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24. Why bitcoin’s price matters, and Bitcoin as a settlement network

In today’s seminar, we discuss why bitcoin’s price matters, what bitcoin skeptics get wrong about it, and what it means to the success of the network. We also discuss the US Office of the Comptroller of the Currency’s new guidance allowing banks to use public blockchains as settlement infrastructure, and how it agrees with The Bitcoin Standard’s thesis.

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23. Bitcoin in Lebanon with Thomas Semaan

Thomas Semaan is an ex-student of Saifedean who has been active in the Lebanese bitcoin scene. He joins us to tell us about the Lebanese fiat crisis, how bitcoin has helped him and other bitcoiners, and compare its effectiveness to political activism and delusions of reform.

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The Fiat Standard – Chapter 1 Read Buy Guy Swann

“For the reader who has become familiar with the operation of bitcoin, a good way to understand the operation of fiat is by drawing analogy to the operation of bitcoin using concepts like mining, nodes, balances, and proof of work. My aim is to explain the operation and engineering structure of the fiat monetary system and how it operates, in reality, away from the naive romanticism of governments and banks who have benefited from this system for a century.”

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19. Microstrategy’s speculative attack & bitcoin bubbles

In today’s seminar we discuss Microstrategy’s latest issuance of notes to finance more purchases of bitcoin, and what it tells us about the state of fiat markets and bitcoin. We also discuss bitcoin price bubbles, and how they relate to halvings and the stock-to-flow ratio.

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18. Deflation with Jeff Booth

Jeff Booth is a long-time leader in the tech industry and the founder and ex-CEO of BuildDirect, who recently wrote The Price of Tomorrow: Why Deflation Is the Key to an Abundant Future. He joins us to discuss inflation and deflation, why deflation is the natural state of markets, and how a hard money like bitcoin fixes much of what is wrong with today’s world.

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17. Stock-to-flow with Plan B

PlanB is the pseudonym of a Dutch money manager and quantitative analyst who has produced a numerical modelling of bitcoin’s price based on its stock-to-flow ratio, after reading about it in The Bitcoin Standard.

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15. Bitcoin mining with Stephen Barbour

In today’s seminar we host Stephen Barbour, founder and CEO of Upstream Data, Inc. We discuss Upstream’s unique products which allow for mining bitcoin off of methane gas that cannot be sold economically otherwise. We also discuss the economics of Bitcoin mining, the difficulty adjustment, and different energy sources.

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14. The Fiat Standard Introduction

In today’s seminar, Saifedean discusses his new book The Fiat Standard, on which he has been working for two years! You can read the first chapter, and sign up to receive a new chapter every week, on saifedean.com!

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13. Deeper implications of Bitcoin with Robert Breedlove

This week, we host Robert Breedlove, one of the sharpest minds thinking and writing about the deeper implications of bitcoin. We discuss Robert’s work on the parallels between the number zero and bitcoin, how bitcoin is digital alchemy, fiat money and slavery, and bitcoin as our most brilliant idea.

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12. James Todaro MD on Fiat Medicine

We are joined by Dr. James Todaro MD to discuss fiat medicine and fiat science, and the free market alternative he is pursuing. James is a bitcoiner and medical doctor who conducted highly important research this year, and saw it censored and attacked by media and scientific authorities. James later helped uncover a completely fraudulent article based on fabricated data published in The Lancet. Six months from its publication, we reflect to see what this study and its retraction teach us about fiat science.

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11. Bitcoin’s Number Go Up & Coronahysteria

In this week’s seminar we begin by discussing bitcoin’s price rise light and how the analysis in The Bitcoin Standard has held up since then. We then move on to discussing Coronahysteria and how so many otherwise reasonable people have been scared into believing ridiculous hysterical nonsense.

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Coronahysteria with Jordan Schachtel – Seminar 10

In this seminar we are joined by Jordan Schachtel, an investigative reporter who has covered the global coronahysteria crisis from its genesis, and proven one of the very few people who has thought and written about it rationally. Jordan discusses the lack of evidence for the interventions being presented as the cutting edge of science. He shares his investigations into some of the leading alarmists and the incoherence of their hysterical messages. He discusses the origin of the hysteria and the horrific impact it will have on people worldwide.

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9. Bitstein on Bitcoin, Meat, and Arctic Carnivore Diets

In this seminar we host Michael Goldstein, @bitstein, of the Satoshi Nakamoto Institute. We discuss our two favorite topics: bitcoin and meat. Michael curated justmeat.co a page with very rich resources on meat, including the amazing story of Arctic explorer Vilhjalmur Stefansson. We are also fortunate to have among our attendees in the seminar Timothy Allen, filmmaker, adventurer, and photographer who has spent years traveling with nomadic tribes in the Arctic and worked on the BBC’s Human Planet documentary. We discuss the diet and health of meat-eating tribes as described in Stefansson’s and Timothy’s travels, the joys of moving reindeer across Siberia while eating raw frozen fish, and the arctic version of red wine.

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7. How to grill a steak and beat fiat food

After five years of eating nothing but meat, Saifedean explains everything he learned about how to grill a steak, and why to grill it. Being well-nourished with meat is the best way to avoid getting addicted to highly-addictive processed junk. In this week’s seminar, Saifedean discusses the most important things he learned about sourcing and preparing meat to stay healthy, as well as some of the most relevant readings that have shaped his thinking on this topic, and the connection between fiat money and fiat food.

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6. Running numbers on bitcoin supply with Pierre Rochard

We are joined this week by Pierre Rochard, of the Satoshi Nakamoto Institute, to talk about: The fixed supply of bitcoin; How bitcoin differs from other moneys; The significance of having a supply that can be verified cheaply; The importance of savings; The difference between savings and investments; BitcoinAcks: Pierre’s new initiative for open source financing of bitcoin development.

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3. Bitcoin Difficulty Adjustment

Mining of coins is more similar to a sports competition than mining. The reward is like a trophy, it is fixed regardless of how many competitors take part. Whereas in mining of natural resources, the more miners participate, the more output is produced.

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2. Economics of Energy

This seminar focuses on the economics of energy. How does the economic way of thinking help us understand the energy market, and recent events like the California blackouts. I discuss the content of the economics of energy chapter in my forthcoming textbook, Principles of Economics, and how marginal analysis can help us understand the limitations of unreliable energy sources, as well as the world’s continued reliance on hydrocarbons for energy.

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1. Monarchy and Democracy

Main points on Monarchy vs Democracy: Time preference; Security of property; War; Democracy has perverse selection; Democracy legitimates government; Kings don’t owe anybody anything; Rise of civilizations under monarchy.

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