Wall Street veteran and founder of Custodia Bank Caitlin Long joins us to discuss bitcoin banks, leverage and the macroeconomy. She explains how new “dollar and digital asset banks” like Custodia Bank are helping to bridge the gap between bitcoin and the US dollar, and why she has chosen to seek regulation rather than bypass it. She and Saifedean discuss financial leverage, its impact on bitcoin’s price and why people should be wary of companies promising risk-free yield on bitcoin. The conversation also covers recent developments in financial markets, including rising bond yields and the fall in the British pound. In the Q&A, Caitlin answers questions on Chinese inflation, stablecoin velocity and whether the path to hyperbitcoinization will be orderly.
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